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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Because we haven't. The episode hasn't started because we don't have a final four.
[00:00:03] Speaker B: We don't. We should do this right now.
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Like right now. No, we're in it. This is. Yep, you're in. I mean, I'm telling you right now. Look around you. This is the episode. Oh, it's happening around. I know, I know. The whole room changes and you're just like.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: It does the colors and it's literally.
[00:00:17] Speaker A: Like the matrix where all of a sudden just everything flies past and you're like, oh, my gosh, I need guns.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: Badass scene, by the way. Badass.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: Can't talk about. We'll get there. Oh, that is actually. No, we do need to talk about.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: That's where exactly.
[00:00:29] Speaker A: What we need to talk about.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: They have the same scene in t two. When he goes in that hole. He's going in a hole. Guns.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: What is. What does Connor say or not? What is. Johnny's just like, oh, mom's always got a stash somewhere.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. It's like, it's like 15 ak 47s, rocket launchers, gatling guns. It's like your mom has been in an insane asylum for. Since the 83. So at least ten years in this movie and she still has secret gun hold.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: Think we know when. I don't think we know.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: She went in at the end of t one.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: How, though? Cuz he. Cuz he lives with her for a while.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: Either way, who gives a shit? She was in an insane asylum and she still has gun hole.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: To be clear, I never saw. I did not watch Terminator one. I read the. I read the synopsis of it so I could watch t two. So.
[00:01:18] Speaker B: So that's why I'm like about t two. Though for those of you who haven't watched, you should have. You. If you're here, you should have. But the plot in t two is completely optional and the movie would still shred ass.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: It doesn't matter, dude.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Robots fighting. What more do you need?
[00:01:34] Speaker A: It's. I like there's something about, especially nineties action before CGI. Is there? I mean, the fact that right now, you know, for, for anyone who's just like, what the fuck's happening? So we. We left group a undecided. The only second time in history in four years. We've done this because we felt like we could not decide between Terminator two, judgment day, or the matrix without thoroughly watching both. And Cody and I had never seen Terminator two.
[00:02:03] Speaker B: Didn't seem fair to Terminator two.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: It did not. Cause we know how important it is. So now we're here, and I will say, like, watching t two, it just made, like, when. I never understand when people talk about, like, video games or, like, CGI and they're like, there's just no weight to it. There's no. And you're like, what the fuck? Do you sound like an asshole? But then you watch, like, a movie like this that is almost entirely practical effects. And, like, when that semi jumps into the ravine, that's a semi jumping into a ravine. And you feel it.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: I completely understand what they were saying. Yeah, yeah.
[00:02:40] Speaker A: I'm like, oh, that's like, there's a human likely. There's either a human being in there or they might be able to pilot it. But, like.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: And a one to one with this movie in the Matrix, the Matrix has that lack of heaviness that you're talking.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: But at least in the Matrix, because, you know, I think it's amazing that this movie's 91 and that. And the matrix is 99, right? Because the matrix for understanding that, like, hey, I think we're gonna really try to use a lot of special effects. I almost feel like they were like, well, the problem with it is that it doesn't have that, like, weight of a practical effect. They're like, cool, then make everyone fucking float. I don't care.
[00:03:15] Speaker B: They just leaned into it like we were like, neither does anything. Nothing.
[00:03:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Then I don't need them to be on the ground to kick ass. I'm not concerned about that part. So make it happen.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: I will save these two movies that I was watching. I watched these movies and my wife existed around the space. She didn't really enjoy them like I did. But I will say, for the record, t two got more badass counts. Cause there's so many scenes where something happened to t two. I was a little high when I was watching it, but something would happen and I just, out loud would go, fucking badass, man. It's badass when t two comes out.
[00:03:49] Speaker A: And he becomes Johnny kneecaps.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: Exactly. Badass. You just see dude when he gets on that motorcycle, guy's like, I can't let you take the bike. And he just snatches that shotgun and keeps it. I'm like, badass.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: Yeah, that's badass.
Okay. But the question is, you're right. From a badass counter. I would. I would. I would say t two runs away with it.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely isn't badass.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: I would say the Matrix has more like wow moments or like, more just like, what the fuck moment. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, this is what you're saying. This is the problem that, like, we have to make a decision. I know. We have to make a decision. We will.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: We're but experts.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: We are. But the thing is, it's like they could. It's almost like, for being two action movies, they couldn't be more different in how, like, t two. Great overall experience. I loved watching it the whole time. I'm like, I get why people love this. Like, yeah. And I was like, this is. This is great. And if. Especially if you were there in 91, I can't even imagine what your brain was doing. And. But then you have the Matrix and the. Or what I'm saying is the Terminator. With Terminator. I'm good now, though. Like, it's. I don't. It's like, it's not going to stick with me that long. The Matrix has that factor where, like, it changes the way you see your own world for. Not for a long time. And you definitely shouldn't continue to think this.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: No, absolutely not.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: There is that moment that movie turns off, and you're just like, wow.
[00:05:13] Speaker B: Something to think about. There's something to chew on here. Or, like, there's nothing to chew on with t two.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: No, but I'm saying, like, it ends and you're just like, am I in the major? How would I know if I'm in the me? Like, it gives you that weird, like, that really great sense of, like, oh, my God. Like, it just holds and, like, the action. Okay, let's just try to break this down character wise. Two really great badass females. Let's start there.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: Let's start there.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: Holy cop. But you got to give the nod to Sarah Connor.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. She's way better than Trinity as far as I'm flushed out person, as a human being. She has a human being. Yeah.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: Not just.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: Not.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: Just as a device to. I don't. Horny.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: I I don't. What's the Bechdel? Not the Bechdel test.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: Is that what's called the Bechdel test? Yeah.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't think major.
[00:06:00] Speaker A: Neither of these movies would pass that Bechdel test, in case anyone needs to know, is if two women care. Two female characters talk to each other about anything other than men.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: Yes. Neither one of these past or the.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: Exact plot of the movie. Yes.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: But at least there is a scene. At least Sarah Connors has a backstory that is developed. And figuring it out, like, she doesn't talk to a woman about something else, but she does talk to a doctor about things that are not directly related to the movie. There's something there to play around with. So I guess to give that to t two. I don't know.
[00:06:29] Speaker A: I would give that. I would give. Okay, so. So neo versus. Not literally, but neo versus Terminator, because then I think I got to go neo.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: Okay. I think for sure he's more fleshed out well.
[00:06:42] Speaker A: And, like, Terminator, like, let's be fair. Terminator is overall.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: Way to go.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: Way to go. Arnold Schwarzenegger for being like, I'll play a, like, let me play a robot. And just be like, yeah, yeah, you won't. We're not. No need to challenge yourself, brother. Like, he does.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: Hey, he does a damn good job playing a robot.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: It's good. I think it's good.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: But I think I go over characters, overall characters. I think I would go matrix. I mean, they have more flushed out characters.
[00:07:09] Speaker A: Full characters. Yeah, full characters. I would go matrix.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: The badass factor goes to t two.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: Yep. Wow factor.
[00:07:16] Speaker B: The cool factor and the wow factor go to the Matrix. What is.
[00:07:19] Speaker A: Okay, best. What is your. The scene that you're just like that. You're just the whole time, like, this is the sickest thing. Cause for me in the Matrix. Or you can go first.
[00:07:29] Speaker B: No, you go first. Go. You're set for me.
[00:07:31] Speaker A: For me. For the Matrix. It's the scene. It's the. It's getting into the lobby and walking through the metal detectors, and they just go off and they're like, sir. And it just.
The trench coat opens up and it's just on from that point. And you're just like, oh, shit. That's so many guns in one trench coat.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: My favorite mate. Okay, my matrix one then is at the. It's near the end where he's got on the phone and the phone gets shot out so he can't leave. And then instead of running, Neil's like, nah, dog hands. We about to throw hands with Agent Smith. That's my favorite part, where he, like, cracks his knuckles and you're like, oh, let's go, dog. You got this.
[00:08:09] Speaker A: He too. Honestly, for me, I think one of my, like, I don't know if it's my favorite, but that scene, the opening chase.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: The chase scene. Yeah.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Between John and the t 1000.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: He's just so sick that you're like, like I said, you're just like, oh, that feeling when John makes it in the ravine and you're like, oh, he's fine. But why is the background music still going? And then he just turns around and off a, off of a bridge comes a frickin semi.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: Yeah, it's badass. Okay. We can't for sure. We're not even into the episode yet.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: I know.
[00:08:45] Speaker B: Let's do this. They're on three. We just pick one. We gotta do this and just see where we're at and we'll argue from there.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: One, two, three. Terminator. Two.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Matrix.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:08:55] Speaker A: I think, I think for me, why it's the Matrix is for me once again too. Like, now that I've seen t two, I'm very glad that I saw it. I don't know if I'll ever watch it again. The Matrix is a movie that I do like to go back to. Not often, but certainly more than like. I'm always like, like, you have that moment, man. It's been a while since I've seen the Matrix. Is it, it's good, right? And then you watch, you're like, God, this movie rips.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, they're both excellent. I'm thinking t two because I think one, I will watch it again just because it is fun. It's, I think if we're comparing these as funnel cake, then this is better. Funnel cake. Is the matrix a better, like, story and plot? Yes. But if I'm talking action movies and I wanna get my hair blasted back by explosions, I think I'm going t two.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: I think what's tough here is the Matrix. They're almost do, like both of these things almost do two different styles of action, right? You have the, like the kung fu karate in, in the matrix, right? You have really awesome fight choreography scenes, whereas, like, Terminator is just a bulldozer, man. Like this is all I'm going to blast up the scene where, oh, that's, that's the badass scene is when he, when they're like, they're pinned into the, the corporation and he's just like, and he's, and the cops are coming in. They're like, you got, he's like, I'm going to go keep the cops off us. And John's already told like, you can't kill anyone. He's like, you, bro.
And you're like, you're excited because you know, t two, you know, Terminator is going to hold that promise. But how, but how? And it, and the way he does it, though, I do need to talk about this is, it is he grabs a mini gun, a mini gatling gun and fires. We are supposed to be led to believe that he has sniper like precision with a gun that has 50 cow bullets, and he's just spraying it lightly in front of them. I'm like, and then when it cuts to casualties, 0.0, I'm like, dog, you hit? You got someone. A little.
[00:10:56] Speaker B: Somebody caught a stray, bro.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Like, just a ricochet off of a car. You blew stuff up. Someone.
[00:11:03] Speaker B: You blew up, like, five cars. Somebody's hurt.
[00:11:05] Speaker A: I'm just saying it's 0.7. You know what I'm saying? Like, someone has to go to the hospital cause they got shrapnel, but it's like, it's fine. They're not dead, but, like, dog, you can't kill people.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: And he blasts that security guard in both his kneecaps. Yeah, he's like, he'll live.
[00:11:20] Speaker A: No, no, that's what I'm saying. Kneecap Jones scene is when he. When.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Yeah, before that. I'm saying, yeah.
[00:11:25] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It's badass.
[00:11:26] Speaker B: It's badass.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: It's like the only way he knows how to not kill people. He's like, well, I'll blow their kneecaps off. Then you're like, okay, I. Okay. For me, here's my. I think my pitch for the matrix.
[00:11:35] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:11:35] Speaker A: Is I think Terminator two is probably the culmination of the best action that you are going to get from the nineties, which I. And I might be making my. Your own point? Yeah, I. Or I guess it's a. More of a culmination of everything that came before. I don't. You do not need. If you only have to watch one movie that encapsulates all of those dad action movies, it's t two.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: I like this more. I will say I like this more than die hard. I like this more than speed. All of those types of movies. For me, the matrix, though, not only, you know, obviously builds on the. What's happening there, right. Trying to save the world and all that stuff. But it. And so much of this is too, is probably because it's. When I saw it, I saw it, like, pretty much when it came out, is like that movie shows you like what the future is going to look like. Absolutely. It's like, hey, by the way, you're getting to watch what is the first thing. We say this all the time. I don't find Monty Python funny. Right. But that's because I've seen all the iterations of that joke. I remember watching the matrix, and you know that you're like, oh, I've never seen this before. And now everything is going to be like. Whereas t two is everything you've ever seen, but the best way to do it.
[00:12:49] Speaker B: Yes. I put one of my categories I'm thinking of is if I had to watch this movie with three other dudes, we got four dudes, bro, and down. We're gonna put a movie on. I think I want it to be t two because it's gonna be action packed front to back. We're gonna have a great time. And, Nick, this is a negative against the Matrix. I love it. They're both very good movies, but some of the people that are into the Matrix, I don't want to talk to about the Matrix. Yes, there I have yet.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: That's a great one.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: Yet I've yet to meet anyone that I don't want to talk to about t two, because no one's like, you want to talk about doing overarching. Oh, my God. We're all logged into the. No, they want to be like, did you see that fucking chase? It was bad.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I will. You have. That is true. Like, 100% in that way that, like, what do you want an action movie to be? Right. Do you want an action. Because do you want an action movie to have philosophy? Like, as silly as that sounds, because I feel like you would be like, action movies don't need philosophy. And I think to some extent, you're probably right. It's nice to be like, because to your point, if I'm a little bit big, the last thing I need to do is, like, get into my head about, like, red pill, blue pill. What does it all mean? What's the. Like, I don't need to go down those roads. I just want to shut my brain off and watch cool shit happen.
[00:14:00] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: You know?
[00:14:00] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm lucking in t two right now. You lock in what you gotta lock in.
[00:14:04] Speaker A: I think we still have to get.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: To the final four.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: I understand that. I still. I think I have to. I think I still have to go matrix, though. I think it's just completely understand.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: And I think, by the way, this is. These are both a plus movies. Watch them.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Either one of. Yeah. If t two goes in, I'm not like, oh, this whole. This whole thing's a sham now. It's like, oh, that. Okay, that's fine. It's very, very good.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: So we know how with the american voting coin of 23 four brought to you by random.org, john Kerry on one side and George Bush on the other, low seed gets to call it Nick. I believe that's you is correct.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: So John Kerry is facing me. I think I got to go with my bush, baby, because he's the cause. He's going to. No, I won't go with John Carrey.
[00:14:49] Speaker B: I was like, yes, pick it because it's a trap.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: But no, you know, I'm going with John Kerry. I'm going with John Kerry. The alternate reality. I want to be in the matrix where John Kerry got it. So we're going to. So we're going to flip. It's Bush.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: Bush, baby. I told it's going to be Bush. Yeah. So t two is going into the final four.
[00:15:07] Speaker A: That is correct. And, folks, welcome to Friendly competition, a podcast to discover the best of all time. I'm Nick Carey alongside my co host and best friend, Cody Lena. We discuss various pop culture topics and narrow it down to truly the best of all time.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: Or as we like to call it, the boat. Before he gets up foot on the boat, we put him into a sweet 16 style tournament. We argue each round. We decide a winner.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: Nick, what kind of cheer do we.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: Use when we decide he steps foot on the boat?
[00:15:50] Speaker A: Whatever the hell we want. Cody, you want to tell them what we're talking about today?
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Absolutely. We've transcended all of human creation. We've gone past art. We've gone past music, poetry. Fuck off. Literature. You don't need that garbage anymore because we have nineties action movies, and once we figure out which one's the best, which will be within the next probably half hour, then you never need to watch another piece of media for the rest of your life. You do not need to. To ingest any more content. Except for this.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: Yeah. I like the idea that you're, like, in maybe about 30 minutes, but you're like, this could be hours. This is. These are. I mean, these are like. I don't want to denigrate the rest. Everything we've ever done. Cause I think if I looked back, I would find something that is as powerful as this final four. But usually there's always one member of the final four. That's like, you got in here. Cause of the bracketologist, right? You got in here. Cause the brackets were randomized and you got a. You got in on a weak spot. You know, you shouldn't be here.
[00:16:47] Speaker B: Seating is important, though.
[00:16:48] Speaker A: It is. It is. And. But I'm just saying, like, I'm looking at these four movies, folks. Here we are. Final four.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: We have. Do we do it? Okay, this is just an option. We don't have to do this. Do we do this as a final. As a fatal four way? They're all strong. Okay, perfect. Good.
[00:17:03] Speaker A: No, I want to keep. I want to hold to. We've done too many. We've done too much already. We have to adhere to tradition at some point.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: Okay, that's fine. That's fine.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: All right, here we are, folks, in the final four, where we have the group a champion, who you just discovered, Terminator two, going up against the group B champion, demolition man. And then we have on the other side of the bracket, the group C champion, Armageddon, going up against the group D champion, Independence day. The reason I want to keep these separate is because the way it fell, once again, we do have that nice dichotomy of, like, okay, do you want your futuristic robots or, you know, Sci-Fi element or do you want just dope? Space. Shit. At the end of the day, that's what the nineties were, folks.
[00:17:46] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:17:47] Speaker A: It was. It's either robots or aliens, folks. And that's what. That's all we cared about. Or stuff from space. We were just so excited.
[00:17:55] Speaker B: We had a lot going on, so we couldn't focus on other things and actually.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: All right, Cody, which one do you want to start? Which. Which battle? Let's go.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: Armageddon. Independence Day. You want to start?
[00:18:04] Speaker A: That's fair. We talked a little bit about t two. Yeah, let's. Let's move on. Let you cool down a little bit. Before. Before we go, I want to say.
[00:18:12] Speaker B: For the record, if you look it up, Neil deGrasse Tyson hates both of these movies, which is part of my research. I learned that he hates both of these movies because apparently they're not realistic. And to Neil degrasse Tyson, I'd say it's an action movie, dog. Like, what are you. I will say.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: I will say that makes me love these movies even more. Like, it's one thing. It's one thing. If Neil degrasse Tyson wants to criticize movies like Gravity or the Martian, right where these are, like, we are in space, this is how it would feel. And look, this is real. You know, I get that dog. We sent oil crew guys to space.
It's not the brain by guy.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: Instead of teaching. Instead of teaching astronauts to drill a hole, we said, people who drill a hole to space.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: Okay, Cody, let's talk about that, because this is Ben Affleck, who is in the film.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: I mean, if I had a choice to send Ben Affleck and Bruce Willis to space, I'm doing it.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: And I feel like the movie shows us why. Because the astronauts are way more likely to get space madness, a disease we all are very aware of, definitely not made up for the movie.
[00:19:26] Speaker B: The people who've trained their whole life to be in space are susceptible to space madness, but the people who've never once, until, I don't know, 30 minutes ago, didn't know space was an option.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: Yeah, it's totally fucking exactly. Because it's what you're prepared for there. You're having to take classes and have to, like, go through, like, psyche valves to make sure you're not going to end up with space madness. So you're like, wait, that's a thing? They didn't even mention it to Bruce Willis until they get up there and one guy starts going through space madness and like, oh, shit. No, it's space madness, not space madness. Okay, but here's the thing, because a lot of people will tell you, Ben Affleck included, will tell you that he doesn't understand why you wouldn't have trained astronauts to. To drill oil.
[00:20:11] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Have you never met a single man in your life? I'm telling you, go to an oil rig right now and ask those men, hey, if given. If we were in an Armageddon situation, could you pull it out?
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Nick, first of all, yes. If they. Someone came to me right now, I'm not even on an oil rig. And like, hey, we need you for an Armageddon situation, I would go, what I'm saying is the president made a bad call.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: No, no, no, hold on. Because here's the. Because if you go to astronauts, these are men of science. These are. These are, generally speaking, people have doctorates. These are people who know the limits of what you can know and what can be done. I think if you go to an astronaut and say, hey, we've got a week that you need to learn how to drill into a surface you've never drilled into before. Do you guys got it? They would all be like, we can try.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I get what you're saying. The scientists are gonna be like, you.
[00:21:03] Speaker A: Need a bunch of fucking rednecks up there being like, let's fucking go, dude. I'm dumb enough that this could work.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: Let me. So let me put this into easier terms. Basically, the scientists, I've ran the numbers, and there's a 30% chance this will succeed. And then they're all scared. But the rednecks are like, you telling me there's a chance? Crack me open a fucking bottle of butter light. Let's give it a ride.
[00:21:24] Speaker A: It's like. So I just always want to say for anyone who argues that it, that it's like, you should have just trained the astronauts. No, you shouldn't have. You got the right guys for the job, obviously, because they did save the world as well.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: Did save the world. The rest in peace.
[00:21:39] Speaker A: Okay, but Independence Day, here's the problem. Here's the problem with Independence Day, Cody. The president saves the day, is part of that team. And he gives that speech.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: The speech. He gives that speech.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: There's no speech in our. For a movie that feels like it should have a speech. It's got a lot of good lines in it. Right? You have a lot of nice moments. You don't have the speech.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: True.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: And I'm.
Okay, tell me, I'm talking.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: The problem I have with Independence Day is I love, I love, I love the speech, I love the action, I love the fights, I love the explosions. It's great. Of all the movies we watched and all the movie, I would say, including the Power Rangers movie, this movie's plot is the least believable of all the movies that we have. Nick, if.
[00:22:24] Speaker A: Hey, Neil degrasse Tyson, why don't you get off?
[00:22:26] Speaker B: No, this is not even the physics of it. This is not the physics of it. I don't care about that, Neil, shut up. I will pass on all the physics because it's a action movie world. I'm just saying, if every city on earth gets glassed, we still lost. We lost Independence day. The speech is good. There's some people that lived, but the planet is destroyed. For all intent purposes.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: They only glass like eight cities, dog. I mean, yeah, New York's gone. And that's, that's going to be a tough one to bounce back from.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: La's gone. Shanghai's gone, Beijing's gone. Every major city in the world, Nick, they glass eight cities, they glass like 90% of the population of earth.
[00:23:07] Speaker A: We're still here.
[00:23:08] Speaker B: What's there?
[00:23:09] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, that sucks. Like, I don't. I hear what you're saying. You are exact. You are. It's a. What? But hey, can we, can we. The way to go, I think it's either Jerry Bruckheim or Michael Bay. I can't remember who did that. Or Ridley Scott. I don't know. Way to have the balls to kill an entire city and then, and not ret, and not retcon it later, not be like, oh, but once we killed the aliens, all the people come back. No, Doug, it takes some balls to be like, no, no, no. We're for sure. Like, they're all dead and you all have to live with that. But don't worry. Cause the movie ends before we talk about it, so. And which is. Well, that they did make a second one, which I probably will never see.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: Okay, here's Independence day two more independent.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: Did you love the moment in Independence day? It's right away. It's like, really. It's like the first time you meet the president and the, like, news anchor is like, saying about Bill Pullman that he's. That he's just like, I don't know. He's just getting pretty old, you know? I just think we need. You know, I don't think he's going to win election. Just a lot of people view him as old. And I was like, dog was 47 in that movie.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: We'll take it.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: We'll take it.
I was like. I was just one of those scenes where I was like, you have no idea. And the whole time, though, that's the only problem with Independence Day, is that we live in America now. Like, you're watching. You're like, there ain't no way. I'm like, it made me realize, I think everyone should have to watch Independence Day because it helps you become a more informed voter. You know what I'm saying?
[00:24:35] Speaker B: Like, yes, I agree. And back to our previous point. I think we should always vote for people who would be capable in an independence day situation.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: I need to at least. I need to at least. Why is that not part of the debates? Why is it not, hey, you've got. I think the speech is like a minute and 30, something like that. Maybe two minutes. It's only. It's not long, but it's the fucking speech. Why do they not in the debates be like, hey, give the speech? Like, your version of the speech.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Move me. I need to be moved.
[00:25:02] Speaker A: I need. I need to run through a brick wall. You know what I'm saying? Like, I need to know that you can do that. I've never flown an f 15, but if I was on the ground there with him, I'd be like, yeah, get me into one of those bad boys. I'll figure it out. They're like, sir, this isn't. Hey, we understand that you could definitely be an astronaut, but you can't fly an f 15 on your own.
[00:25:22] Speaker B: I. Where are you at? I think I'm leaning towards Armageddon right now.
[00:25:27] Speaker A: The spectacle of Armageddon.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's where I'm at. It's the song the spectacle, the just everything building together. Independence day is also a spectacle and good and stuff, but, yeah, it's, I find. I find it hard for everyone to clap and celebrate taking a big, fat.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: Nasty l.
So my problem, the, my problem is it's Armageddon. I'm probably closer Armageddon than I am Independence day, but there's the speech, and then there is Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum as just the, like, I know, I, we talked how sexy they are in the last episode. We don't have to get too deep into that. But it's true. The, like, the star power.
Yeah, Armageddon has Bruce Willis, and Bruce Willis is doing a pretty good job, but otherwise, there's not that, like, you know, when you're in an action movie, I want that just like, I want to be just drawn to something.
[00:26:23] Speaker B: I think. I think you actually brought it up when we were talking about Armageddon. Why I'm going to vote for Armageddon. And the thing I like about it, I feel like Armageddon is a poor man's action movie. And I don't mean in a way that it's usually interpreted like poor man's action movie, you know, like, not a good version. I mean, when I watch Armageddon with my boy Nick and we're a little high and we're sipping a beer together, we can look at each other and be like, they could have thrown us on that rock. We would've got it done. Boy, we'd have got that job done. At no point during Independence Day do I look at Nick and say, we could have got that.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: Yeah, we're just. We're just stuck there. Like, we just be looking over at each other like, Jeff Goldblum's so high. We live in South Dakota, right? Exactly.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: Dude. No one's shooting us.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: They don't, they don't mention ever getting near Minnesota or South Dakota. So, like, I don't know.
[00:27:05] Speaker B: I'm on the. I'm on the far side, too. If you want to take down Mount Rushmore, go ahead.
[00:27:09] Speaker A: I'm over. Fine. I'm going to be like, I think.
[00:27:13] Speaker B: I got a lock in Armageddon. It's just, it felt better. Independent is great. Again, I think we did a very good job of these final four. All these movies are very good.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: I know unique ways gonna be this. It's always gonna be this. But I. I think I have to agree with you. I just think Armageddon has just so big, so dumb in that way that I need. I need you got it. You need it, you know?
[00:27:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:34] Speaker A: All right, let's. We go to the other side of the bracket where we have t two going up against demolition man.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: My wife, Nate, I got a. Sorry, Catherine, but I have to put you on blast. I was. I was watching t two. Kathryn kind of watched demolition man with me. She, like, sat and watched most of it.
[00:27:51] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: We watched t two first, and then we're watching demolition man, and when they're getting Stallone out of the cryo freezer, and he's, like, naked, laying there all curled up.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: She's like, hey, wasn't Arnold Schwarzenegger, like, in that same pose in t two when he was naked? And I was like, yeah, kind of. It's kind of, you know, a throwback to an old action movie. And she's like, why were they naked? It doesn't seem like it's necessary. Have you seen Stallone and Schwarzenegger? Like, why are they naked? Do this, Danny.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: Stallone gets naked.
[00:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, what do.
[00:28:19] Speaker A: What do you do?
[00:28:20] Speaker B: You don't want to see this. If I watch these movies and you cut out that scene, I'm pissed. Get it back.
[00:28:27] Speaker A: Hey, man, you don't go to the bakery and not look at the beefcake. You know what I'm saying?
[00:28:32] Speaker B: Exactly, dude.
[00:28:33] Speaker A: I'm here to check out the beefcake. Regardless of, like, it's like, I think. I think you could ask some of the straightest men, like, people who are, like, defiantly straight and. And be like, take out the. Take out the nude scenes in t two or demolition man. They're big. Hey, man, what he. There is that scene where he is just fucking ripped up, and you just.
[00:28:52] Speaker B: I need to see him ripped up. That's the point. If I don't see him that ripped up, then how am I supposed to believe when he's fighting the guy in the old abandoned subway that he can really power bomb him through a car?
[00:29:05] Speaker A: It's very important. I need to know he's jacked in the same way.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: Let me also. Let me get a good look at that hog.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that. Hey, don't tease a hog and not show. Hey, now. Hey, now. You're just like, hey, come on, man.
In t two, when he's walking through and he. And it's you. You're seeing his point of view, right?
[00:29:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: And it's just all the women being like, nice hog.
Also, though, it is a robot. Why do we put a hog on the bot?
[00:29:31] Speaker B: Because it needs. It needs to pass as a human.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: That is. That is not the human test, dude, we've never done that as our human test. Without that hog dog.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: It is now. Hey, if you knew there was robot symbiote robots walking around and you knew that they didn't have a hog, the test would be. Let me see that hog.
[00:29:49] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: So in the future, I think there's.
[00:29:51] Speaker A: Other tests before the. Let me see that hog test.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: There are belly buttons. You have to remember this robot's from the future. He's already. All those tests have already passed. We've already. We're at the hog stage of testing now, Cody.
[00:30:04] Speaker A: You're right. He is from 2029. So I really don't know what, five years from now we've. The tests we've come up. But you're right, the test we would have five year from now are very much less likely.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: We're gonna be watching the MIT dynamic robot, like, jumping on boxes and stuff and like, oh, God, let me see that hog on him, though.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: They'll be like, there is no hog. Good. Good. That's exactly right.
[00:30:25] Speaker B: Good. That's exactly right. There's not.
[00:30:27] Speaker A: That's the right answer, that test. All right.
[00:30:28] Speaker B: The test. Don't ever put one on there. Otherwise we'll never know.
[00:30:33] Speaker A: Don't let them know about our hogs. Okay? Don't ever let them know about the hog. So that way they'll never put it. They'll never think, oh, I got a pass as one of these guys. Let me get one of these things. Okay. Here's the thing. I think, I know we've talked about t two, so I want to give some time to demolition man.
[00:30:50] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: Here's the, like, demolition man. Is that great. You reach for, you know, if you reach for. If you reach for the stars, you'll land on the moon or whatever the fuck it is, right? You land for the moon. Land on the stars. Like, there is a lot of cool shit. There's a lot of fun ideas. Obviously. It's. I think it's even better in the future. Like, now.
[00:31:11] Speaker B: It's better now. It's better now than it was in 98 or 99 or 96, whatever.
[00:31:14] Speaker A: Yeah, completely agree. I'm like, this is so much better because you're like, you got, you kind of got there. Like, you got a lot of stuff right, like that. But you got a few things right here.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: It took a lot of big swings, which I really respect. And the whole movie is very fun. It. They, of all the movies in the final four, it's the one that gets comedy, right?
[00:31:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that actually. Yeah, exactly. Sorry. It just makes me think of, like, every joke that's in all these other ones where you're like, I see what you thought you did. I see what you saw.
[00:31:41] Speaker B: Pasta la vista, baby, is not quite the same as when he's describing different ways to have sex with someone in the future who's never touched a human body. The horizontal mambo jumbo town, getting the pink pig in the butt play pen. What are we talking about here?
[00:31:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it's man, so. But it's good. Demolition man is very, very. And honestly, I think if you had to make me choose, I think I'm a stallone over an Arnold. I think I've decided we.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: I agree with you, too.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: We've done enough. We've done enough of these now that it's actually kind of allowed me to have watched these films and the movies I never had an opinion on. And I'm like, Stallone was that guy. Like, he clearly wanted to be an actor, but there.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: And he's directed and written and stuff. Yeah, I'm definitely a Stallone guy over.
[00:32:29] Speaker A: Schwarzenegger, so it's definitely Stallone. Like, I'm watching this. I'm like, I love you, Stallone. Wesley Snipes. Shout out, Wesley snipes for hanging out.
[00:32:37] Speaker B: And being here doing cool stuff, which I. Fucking. Snipes is so good in this movie. Wesley Snipes killed it in this movie, dog. Here's what I want. I hear we don't usually do this, but I'm throwing this out to fungal or my bim bam fans that listen to this show. I wish Wesley Snipes would have paid his taxes, because we'd still have Wesley Snipes, man.
[00:32:56] Speaker A: Well, spoilers he is.
[00:32:58] Speaker B: What else did he do? What else did he do?
[00:32:59] Speaker A: No, no, no, sport. No, no, no. Not bad spoilers.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: Oh, thank God he is.
[00:33:03] Speaker A: I'll say. He's in a current movie. A very. A very big movie right now that. Oh, no. Oh, Ryan Reynolds already spoiled it. He's in Deadpool and Wolverine.
[00:33:12] Speaker B: Oh, he comes back as late. God. Cool.
[00:33:14] Speaker A: And that part. And he still got it. Like, in that way that you're like, you don't have it all because you just can't. You're getting old. Like, there's something about watching, like, a man who's, like, closer to 70 than he isn't.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:25] Speaker A: Trying to be cool, but you're like, you still get it.
[00:33:28] Speaker B: He still snipes.
[00:33:29] Speaker A: It's not gone. It doesn't leave him.
[00:33:32] Speaker B: Wesley snipes. It's one of those games like, this is my friend Wesley. Like, he got fucking snipes. Damn. That's cool. Yeah, you had me in the first half, I'm not gonna lie. But in the second half, you really brought me back.
[00:33:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I just like, here's the problem.
[00:33:47] Speaker B: I think I know what you're trying to say.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: Get it? Get t two.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: T two. I think t two holds up differently. Demolition man is a movie. I think. I like demolition man a lot, but I don't think a lot of people like demolition man a lot. And I have a lot of reasons.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: To not like, there's a lot of.
[00:34:02] Speaker B: And. But there's not a lot of reasons not to like t two.
[00:34:04] Speaker A: It's just airtight. Like, that's what. It's just one of those things where it's a. It's 2 hours and 17 minutes. You could have told me it was an hour.
[00:34:12] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:34:13] Speaker A: Lies. But you're just like. It's paced very well. Everything lines up in a really. In a great way.
[00:34:19] Speaker B: Also, in demolition man, the guy in the future who brings back Wesley Snipes and, you know, mind basically makes him the ultimate killing machine. The computer hacker, all that stuff. The one that gives them all the info. How the fuck did you think that was gonna play out, my dude? Like, what were you thinking? You made the. One of the world's biggest sociopaths of all time. Like, that's his whole character. He's insane. And now you made him an insane, perfect killing machine. Oh, yeah. He kills you. Spoiler alert. He killed that guy. Like, what the fuck are you thinking?
[00:34:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like silence of the lambs. Just giving Hannibal Lecter, like, I don't know. Why don't you get out? It's like, what do you think, he's gonna kill someone and eat someone?
[00:34:58] Speaker B: But it's. It's worse than that. It's taking Hannibal Lecter from Silence of the lamps, letting him and eight of his hand picked dudes who are also in jail out.
[00:35:06] Speaker A: Right.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
Oh, and by the way, this is a future without guns. So. They're the only ones with guns.
[00:35:13] Speaker A: Yeah, dog, good call. No, no, they're just gonna focus on what was the plan if. If everything goes well, right?
[00:35:20] Speaker B: If it.
[00:35:21] Speaker A: Yeah. What's your percent to plantain? What is the next day look like? You think these guys are gonna be like, hey, thank you so much for letting us run that mission. That was so cool. Yeah, we'll head back to. We'll head back to prison or whatever.
[00:35:34] Speaker B: Yeah, you can. You can freeze us again. That's fine. No, dude, you taught him. You taught him karate. He's not going back.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: Yeah, there's. You don't come back from that.
[00:35:42] Speaker B: Like, if I do karate, you'd never get me in jail. I got a lock in ttude I just got locked into. I love demolition man, though. Very good.
[00:35:50] Speaker A: It was. Once again, there's no.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: There's.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: You can't have a bad time watching any of Cody. Okay, here's a situation for you. You're John Connor.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: I'm Kyle Reese. You tell me how you feel about that. Oh, you don't? Wait, have you seen Terminator one?
[00:36:05] Speaker B: No, I don't know.
[00:36:05] Speaker A: Did you read anything about it?
[00:36:06] Speaker B: No, because it was not Terminator two.
[00:36:08] Speaker A: Okay, that's fine. Then I'll just give you the quickest synopsis, because Terminator one, essentially, the whole plot there is that they send Arnold Schwarzenegger to kill John Connor. In Terminator one, Arnold Schwarzenegger is the villainous, definitively not an antihero. He's definitively the villain. So Kyle Reese is part of the militia, and John. John Connor from the future sends Kyle Reese back to be like, hey, they're going to send a Terminator to kill my mom. You got to protect my mom. And he's like, of course. But we also find out that Kyle Reese, there's a little photo of Sarah Connor that he's probably whacked off to a couple times.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: So it's okay. So his friend becomes his own dad. It's a nasty. In the nasty situation.
[00:36:49] Speaker A: It's one of those. It is. And it's. That's what makes. I. I will say, having read that, it did make the movie even better, because you do. John Connor does have to deal with, like, the fact that he. His mom has told him all of this, too. She has not let him be like, oh, you're, you know, don't worry about it. You know, she is. She's insane and is like, hey, by the way, you're a future militia leader, so I'm going to bang all these dudes so that way you can learn how to be a warrior. Cause you have to save the world. And also, your dad is gonna be your best friend.
[00:37:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Your dad.
Pass. Justification. Dude, you know what? I love that detail. That's great. I'm okay with it.
[00:37:28] Speaker A: Like, I'm just like, how is that? Like, when you have to go, like, imagine meeting me, knowing I'm your dad and just being like. And I. It's older than you to the first time we met dog and it is me, and it's you and me, and we're pushing that couch. You just have to be like my mom at some point.
[00:37:46] Speaker B: You're gonna rod dog my mother.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: You're gonna fucking rod dog my mom.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: Like we already did. Technically, if I'm born.
[00:37:51] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, that's.
[00:37:53] Speaker B: Time travel's weird.
[00:37:54] Speaker A: Time travel is nuts.
[00:37:57] Speaker B: Here's the thing. I think you brought up an excellent point. Terminator two is airtight, right? When you're watching it, the only time you stop to think is, was that more badass than the last thing I saw?
[00:38:07] Speaker A: Right.
[00:38:08] Speaker B: Badass. But in Armageddon, you're like, wait, they're not sending scientists. Wait. They rode up on a jet ski. Wait. Like, it's a lot of weight. Wait, okay. Like you. But they have to think about it. But you get there. You get there. I'm not saying you can't get there, but I'm saying in t two, you're already there, baby. You're there.
[00:38:24] Speaker A: Can we. Here's the. I will say, I think, though, where Armageddon. There's a moment these. Both these movies have a self sacrifice. And. And that was the one thing I knew about t two going in, is that at some point, he's going in the lava and he's going to give the thumbs up, right? And there is this perfect moment where the t 1000 is right there on the edge where I just thought he was going to hit him with the spear, and it's like, no. And then he gives it instead. It's much more protracted.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: Yeah. I like it.
[00:38:59] Speaker A: That Bruce Willis sack. I will you. I will cry. I've cried every time ever. I've cried when I watched it when I was nine years old. I will continue to cry.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: Od.
[00:39:13] Speaker A: He has to. I know going to. That he's going to miss a thing. That's because he saved the world.
[00:39:21] Speaker B: That scene is very good. And I'm trying to think in my head, if it. If terminate, the end scene of Terminator would be. Is good. If I only changed one thing, and that was to add Aerosmith as the backing soundtrack.
[00:39:31] Speaker A: Yeah. The answer is yes.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: It would have been better. So that's.
[00:39:35] Speaker A: It would've been sick.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: That's the one thing t two does not have as Aerosmith. There's no aerosmith at all.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: So here's where once again. I know, I know. We've said t two is, like, airtight, and it's great. Here's the thing about, like, when I'm going into an action movie, though, and I do think some of this is because of where we are now in society, right?
[00:39:54] Speaker B: We're.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: We're so used to special effects and stuff that, like, t two comes off as, like, quaint now. Like, I. There's all, like, for what was considered spectacled then, right. Passes for, oh, that's cool. Whereas, like, what? Armageddon still, when I'm watching it, I get that, like, aw. Feeling of, like, holy. Because it is a good. Because they can't do a ton. They're still doing special effects, but there's so much practical effects, too, right. That it balances it out in a nice way.
[00:40:26] Speaker B: This is. Yeah, it does. And I do like Armageddon. And I do like that Armageddon feels like a massive set piece of a movie. Like you're watching all these dominoes falling in. It's very. It's very cinema, right? This is cinema.
[00:40:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: The thing I like about t two that I think we haven't touched on is despite the fact that there's time travel and there's robots fighting to the death, it feels real. There's no time for a. There's no time for a love plot. That's not what we're here for. Yes, she's. The lady's locked in an insane asylum, and she's absolutely right. Everything she's saying is the truth. She doesn't seem crazy, but she's saying these crazy things. Guess what? That's what we. They would do with people.
[00:41:01] Speaker A: Like, yeah, yeah, that's what happens.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: It feels like. It feels like this stuff is happening in the world that is really happening. And.
[00:41:08] Speaker A: No, that's a great point.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Armageddon doesn't have, like, when they stopped have sex and Armageddon, it's like, Doug, you're trying to save the world.
[00:41:13] Speaker A: They knew that they had time. There was an off day. They literally said go. They literally told them, like, hey, hey, make your peace, brother. Like, although to that point, though, to that point, what a wild, like, what a wild. They are so much calmer for men who know what they're about to do and what's coming and being like, actually.
[00:41:30] Speaker B: I think, for the record, Nick, that I think there's a stoicism that we all would have if we were in that situation, if it was that.
[00:41:36] Speaker A: You're just like, if you knew that.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: If you knew tomorrow that you were gonna die, what are you. I'm not gonna freak out? What's the freaking out gonna do?
[00:41:42] Speaker A: I guess that's fair, right? Yeah, that's a good point. You might as like, you'd be, I think you'd probably just be more present. Could you imagine? Could you imagine realize, like, you know, like, hey, we're on this mission tomorrow, and you just see, like, some guy just, like, on his phone. Like, are you. Get off your phone.
This is happening, dude, please stop looking at Instagram. This is the last time.
[00:42:03] Speaker B: Like, I.
[00:42:05] Speaker A: Man, here's what's tough. Here's what's tough for me is I know I should pick t two. I know I should. And I get that. I genuinely like Armageddon. There's a fun factor for me that t two doesn't have. And for me, with an action movie, like, I want that fun factor. I want dumb, you know?
[00:42:27] Speaker B: Okay, you want some fun fact from t two, the leading boy that plays John Connor and his best friend. Do you know where they got their start? Where are you afraid of the darkest? That's a fun fact. So if you're like me and you have the dvd collection of are you afraid of the dark? When you first see them, your first thought is, oh, no, that's not John Connor. It's, hey, that's that kid from are you afraid of the dark?
[00:42:49] Speaker A: Are they.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: That gets a real different energy to the movie.
[00:42:51] Speaker A: I. Here's the problem with t two as well. John Connor, he's. He has his moments, but it is. He is not doing. It is not, he's not holding it down as well as, as the other two. And I know that's a child actor thing and that you're. It's a, it's a roll the dice with child actors. I know that. But I'm just saying his acting was.
[00:43:10] Speaker B: Never bad enough to completely take me out of.
[00:43:12] Speaker A: No, no. Yeah, not fully. And I'm sure. And also, this is the person who's probably going to choose Armageddon, saying, like, his acting was a little bad. It's like, did you see Ben Affleck is in this movie, Nick?
[00:43:25] Speaker B: Like, Ben Affleck and Liv Tyler in this movie or in this.
[00:43:29] Speaker A: And they share scenes, too. Together for some unknown reason. They were like, let's put the two. Actually, I would say Ben's charismatic, but, like, nonetheless.
[00:43:37] Speaker B: No. Yeah. They still qualify as scenes when they're together. I'm lucky in t two. That's where I'm going. I think. T two. As far as action movie, this is top to bottom. Perfect. It doesn't feel long. It moves along. The plot is there. It's just. It's good. And then Sarah Connor is a badass.
[00:43:56] Speaker A: That's man. That was the one thing that made me. I just. I like, I'm just thinking, you know, it makes you, like, think you're watching that, and you're like, okay, this is 91. How many other badass female like roles this should have spawned? All of them. Like, there should have been aliens.
[00:44:11] Speaker B: The only other one I can think of, anyway.
[00:44:12] Speaker A: But I think. But I think alien and aliens is either right. Is. Is right around or at least kind of before you have rip. So, I mean, that means you have Ripley and Sarah Connor holding it down. And then, I mean, society was, like, the first.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: The first alien came out in 90, 79. So it's been a while.
[00:44:27] Speaker A: Yeah. So. So I'm just saying, you have. We had these great examples, and I'm not saying that there aren't movies that have strong women, actually. But I'm like, this should have been the move, right? Like this. They were so good. She's so good in it. I. Like I said, this is gonna come down to just preference and the fact that I love. I do need a little dumb, I think, to your point, you're right. This is entirely grounded and is like, this is how it would, theoretically, if two robots from the time are coming back, are coming back in time.
[00:45:00] Speaker B: Once you make the jump. Once you're able to make the jump and say, this is the plot. I have. I have agreed to watch this movie with the. The belief that these two robots from the future are doing this.
[00:45:10] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: Once you do that, the rest of the movie is realistic.
[00:45:12] Speaker A: Yep. And at no point do they break their own rules. It's like it. Once again, it's airtight. Like, a little dumb.
[00:45:19] Speaker B: I like being able to get in. If Armageddon would give me Taylor or gave me Aerosmith, then I would have everything. But I like it, too, dude.
[00:45:29] Speaker A: I get it, man. I understand. And I. And to some extent, I hope you win. I hope you do win this split, because I think I would like to know that t two like that. That's what we say is the nineties action. But I can't in good conscience say, yeah, that.
[00:45:43] Speaker B: Well, you got to pick. You got to pick because you're the low seed.
[00:45:46] Speaker A: Low seed for me. All right, so we got a George Bush facing up, John Kerry on the other side. I got to go. I got to go. George Bush, because he's the only type of. He is the dude who. This would have been his plan. You know, this is a George Bush plan.
[00:46:02] Speaker B: I'm from Texas. We're going to go down there. We're going to get the best oil monkeys. That's what they call them. Or Bush. I don't think we call that. We're going to go get them and we're going to put them on. On the moon. No, we need to blow up an asteroid. We're going to put them on the asteroid.
[00:46:12] Speaker A: Then do that.
[00:46:13] Speaker B: Say, all right, I don't care. It's gonna be fucking bad. We're gonna put a nuclear bomb on an asteroid. It's gonna be badass.
[00:46:19] Speaker A: I will. I will say that in a world where that. That the Armageddon plot pans out and when they get back to Earth, we can never not get off oil, can we? Like, we're like, well, oil saved the day. So, like, we would just have to be like, well, oil's the great.
[00:46:33] Speaker B: Like, if they did that, though, like, a parade doesn't seem like enough, you know, like, what do you do?
[00:46:39] Speaker A: Yeah, they're going like a tour first. They should have. They should get like a full world tour.
[00:46:44] Speaker B: Yeah, we're world tour.
[00:46:45] Speaker A: Where we all just gather in stadiums to applaud them.
[00:46:49] Speaker B: Everybody should bring them some, right?
[00:46:51] Speaker A: Yeah, you have to bring your a donation of something gift. Get that. Got to stay here because they did it. The world didn't blow up. What are you bringing. What are you bringing to them that you're like, hey, I would not have had this, but you. But you serve it.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: I don't know, bro. Like, that's really hard. We've got these. I've got these custom friendly competition skateboard deck that you got me for Christmas, and it's very important to me. And there's only two. And maybe that's. Maybe that's. They'd like that.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: I like that. I think I'm looking around.
I think I'm handing over, like, I think I'd hand over just like a symbolic record.
[00:47:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:29] Speaker A: Like, I would. Just like, I know behind me I've, like, mayday parades, a lesson in romantics. Just something like that. To be like, I get to have music still because of you. Like, so. Thank you. Something like that, but I. All right, so we got a flip. Let's see what happens. John Kerry.
[00:47:43] Speaker B: Okay, let's go.
[00:47:44] Speaker A: Terminator two, baby, for the gods picked accurately. I'm. I feel good about that. I feel good on both ends. Cause I got to. I got to pick Armageddon and I get to know that t two is. Is the movie because I do think that that is nineties action, baby.
[00:47:59] Speaker B: It's nineties action. It's quintessential nineties action. Nothing more and definitely nothing less.
[00:48:04] Speaker A: Yeah. So, t two, congratulations on becoming our champion for best nineties action film. And thank you all so much for listening to this episode of friendly competition. If you want about chaboys, a few things that you can do, as always, share with a friend. Tell a friend, wherever you're listening to this, make sure you hit that. Like that. Follow and that. Subscribe and give us five stars wherever you can.
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[00:48:39] Speaker A: As always, shout outs to Charizard for that intro music. You want to hear more of their stuff? And over to band camp, type in Charizard. Replace the bowels with sixes. That's going to be it for us, folks. Got a new season coming up, but until then, I've been Nick Carey.
[00:48:52] Speaker B: And I'm Cody Lena. See you on the boat.
