Episode Transcript
[00:00:18] Speaker A: Welcome to friendly competition, a podcast to discover the best of all time. I'm Nick Carey alongside my coast and best friend, Cody Lena. Discuss various pop culture topics and narrow it down to truly the best of all time.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Nick, this is bullshit. We can't be Cody Lena and Nick Carrie anymore, not with this. We need our cool boss criminal names. We can't just be our names. What? How? That's no anonymity. They're gonna find us so fast and we're gonna get fined, especially meat. Meat finds, Nick, are not something to fuck around with.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: You also need the, like, what the FBI is gonna, like, call you.
[00:00:52] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. You know, like when they're, like, when.
[00:00:54] Speaker A: They got it take down. Like, it's like, hey, this is.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: I got.
[00:00:57] Speaker A: I mean, is it two on the nose and just call me out here.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: Call me the dawn.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: I mean, you can have the dawn. I'm gonna be Cody, aka the butterscotch stallion, because I want something that goes with the horses. But, you know, I'm sweet. I want some.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: You want to hint at you just want to, like, put it. It was always there in front of everyone's faces the whole time, like that. We've been processing horses. They're like, oh, that's, that's. It was, right? He just like, huh?
[00:01:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, you can be pony boy. How do you like Pony boy?
[00:01:29] Speaker A: I.
I'm going to be honest, if I'm running a corporate, I get that there's something to be said about like, oh, isn't it funny that the biggest guy is called tiny? I get that. I get the humor. I don't feel like I'm going to gain the ultimate level of respect that I need if my nickname is Pony boy.
[00:01:46] Speaker B: That's fair.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: But you said butterscotch Stallion.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that's me, the Butterscotch Stanley. I mean, we could go with, like, horse names. What if we went like American Pharaoh? That's pretty fucking cool. That's a pretty good one. I mean, it's far horse that won the Kentucky Derby and all that shit. But also it's saying, like, I'm a God. I'm a God, king among men. And I saw horse on the side, you know? I like that.
[00:02:10] Speaker A: It gives them the hint. I do like that. What. What are other Curie took stallion. That's. Ooh, what if you just called me the Clydesdale?
[00:02:20] Speaker B: Okay, I like that. Cuz you're big and strong.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm the big beefy boy. Like, oh, that you are. And I drink the beer.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: The medias yeah.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: So it would make sense. Like, I don't.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Do you love shitty light beer? Exactly. It would not be on out of character for Nick to just crush a bud light on, like, a lot of levels.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: I feel like people be like, why do they. Like, if you had to ask, why do they call him the Clydesdale? And he'd be like, just look.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Look at. I'll call you the Clydesdale if you let me switch to american pharaoh.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: That's fine.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: I want to go back. I want to be american pharaoh.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: Well, I was going to see if I was the dawn. If you wanted to be the dusk. No, absolutely not.
[00:02:53] Speaker B: I want to be american pharaoh. I don't want. Yeah, I want to be american pharaoh.
[00:02:57] Speaker A: That's a pretty good. That's a pretty solid as far as.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: And then. Oh, God. We could have. We could name all of our people. There's so many cool horse names. Comanche, Redrum, Seattle, slough. I haven't even thrown in Seabiscuit yet.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: We haven't even gotten to Seabiscuit.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: One horse has just named beautiful Jim Key. That's badass.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: G y m. Key.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: No. J I m. Beautiful Jim Key.
Someone saw this horse is my horse Jim. And someone just wept. They saw the horse wept because of its beauty. And I guess that's beautiful. I guess that's my horse, beautiful Jim.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: And we're gonna call him beautiful then. Cause he has to be.
[00:03:32] Speaker B: Look at.
[00:03:32] Speaker A: Look at the reaction he's solicited out of this, man. I get it. Don't know where the key comes from.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: But, hey, what does matter? Last name? Yeah.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: Last name.
There it is, folks. Here we are in the final four of best goons for a criminal organization.
And we have the group a winner, the cleaner going up against the group B winner, a right hand man. And then we have, on the other side of the bracket, the group C winner, ball guy. And then we have the group D winner of the putty person. Cody, where do you want to start?
[00:04:09] Speaker B: Let's go with ball guy and putty person. Because if you just saw this in on its own, you'd think these are the low levels. But these. And they might be. But they're so important.
[00:04:19] Speaker A: Well, you need. Well, a, as we've discussed already, right. The putty people are what makes the job. Making them. Making the moves.
[00:04:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:25] Speaker A: They're the ones who are doing everything like, I. We can't. We can't even begin to. I'm not getting my hands dirty with this.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: Absolutely not. I need the putty people. I need them to carry boxes, commit low level crimes, maybe steal candy from kids. I need them, Nick.
[00:04:38] Speaker A: I have died gratuitously in a blood bath. Like, that's. Hey, it's all for the greater good of. For me, at least.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: Like, you know how cool it's going to be for me, Nick, to watch this from our balcony while you fight? It's going to be awesome. It's going to get about the fall guy, though. And I think the problem I have with the fall guy, Nick, is are we allowing failure to get into our mindset? Sure. Is this not a sigma mindset after all? This is a Sigma Grindset podcast.
[00:05:06] Speaker A: Yes. We've said that every day has been hundreds of years. Hundreds, hundreds and hundreds of episodes of us just telling y'all how to wake up, get this bread. Never stop. Never stop grinding.
[00:05:18] Speaker B: Ever stop grinding. I don't even sleep anymore because I outsource sleeping. So what I'm trying to say is, if I outsource my fall guy, does that mean I'm outsourcing my losing and I'm still losing and I'm allowing myself to lose? Or should I just not even have one?
[00:05:32] Speaker A: I. Okay, I hear what you're saying. But to. To your point, though, no matter what, we're doing illegal stuff, right? Like, we just are.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: We are. Yes, no doubt.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: So the fall guy is there just to catch, is to be caught. He's our piece of cheese for the big. The big corporate cat or the big FBI cat. They think that they got it. They go get this cheese. Oh, look at that trap. You die.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: Yep, done. I agree. We got the fall guys.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: By the time he's arrested, we're already in Bermuda.
[00:06:06] Speaker B: That's.
[00:06:06] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? Like, that we need that lead time that the fall guy provides to make sure that it's like, hey. Ah, looks like it got too hot. We're going to go. Cause I'm going to tell first things first, and I. We haven't necessarily talked about this as far as running this criminal enterprise together. The second it gets. Not even hot. The second it gets warm, I'm calling it. I'm like, hey, we did enough here, didn't we? We did a lot, boys.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: We did.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: We sure did.
[00:06:33] Speaker B: All right, dude, I'm the exact opposite of you. I'm that. Like. I'm like, if I'm going to do this, I'm in it for the long haul. I'm even considering, like, yeah, we have a fall guy. And if the fall guy gets caught, is my sigma grind set gonna make me have to break him out. Yeah, just to prove that, you know, I don't take l's dog. I don't take it.
[00:06:52] Speaker A: That's. That's starting to feel like this. This feels like hubris right here. This is when.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: This is.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: This is the pride before the fall, if you're going to walk in, which I. Hey, great move, by the way. You are the. You are the ultimate bad guy. Walking into the police. The police's office and be like, hey, I need to bail that dude out. And everyone's like, oh, shit. Is it him? Then? Like, everyone knows.
[00:07:16] Speaker B: No, no, no. I'm not saying I bail out the fall guy. I'm saying we fast five this shit. We connect cars to his. His cell, and we run. Drive him down the streets of Miami or wherever the fuck that was. We get this boy out of here. I don't care how many lives are lost. I do not take L's.
[00:07:33] Speaker A: Is it taking. Well, question then. Is it taking an l? If it goes exactly the way you planned it, if the fall guy gets caught, that's exactly what we wanted. That means we lined it up perfectly. Everything points. Everything points to Josh, right? Everything that we're doing there. That when the FBI was putting together their little breadcrumb trails and they were tying red tape together the whole time, or red string together the whole time, they're like. It seems like everything's running through Josh. It seems like this company FCP meets is an incredibly well run organization by two entrepreneurs named Nick and Cody. But all of a sudden, it looks like maybe they've got a bad seed, little bad apple in the group, who's. Who's intentionally trying to take this down.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: I cannot stress how Nick and how clean Nick and Cody look, but it definitely. Josh definitely looks like he's working with american pharaoh in the Clydesdale. Some fucking nefarious shit going on.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: See?
[00:08:35] Speaker A: So it's like, it isn't losing if they.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: If we.
[00:08:39] Speaker A: If we set it up perfect to just.
[00:08:41] Speaker B: I was just trying to get in that mindset. I was trying to see if I got into late stage crime, how corrupt I was. But at the end of the day, I don't care about these people. I don't care about the fall guy. I don't care about the bloody people. I make you sign everyone signing NDA's like, I don't.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: I. So then where. Where are you at on this one, then? Because I'm.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: I know.
[00:09:02] Speaker A: I understand that we need putty people. Like, I get that. That these are. That we have to have them, and we're going to need a fair amount of them. But at the end of the day, they're just kind. They are, by definition, disposable.
[00:09:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: So it's, like, hard for me to, like, get excited about. But me, I mean, is that what you need the most of, though?
[00:09:21] Speaker B: Right? Here's. This is what I'm thinking, right? I think I'm leaning towards putty people. Because at the end of the day, if shit's hitting the fan and I don't have a fall guy, I can get to a non extradition country. We're rich. We got all this horse money. But if I don't have party people, if I don't have numbers to show I'm legit, no one's going to take american pharaoh seriously. Nobody, but nobody even knows about the fall guy. Like, no one should even know I have a fall guy. That's background stuff. This is up front. This is business. I'm trying to run a business, and I need it to look legit. And I need dudes out here getting their ass kicked.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: I just need people get whooped up on.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: People who are overconfident and just thought they had it.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: I'm just saying, if we could only have one. If we can only have one of these, I want the putty people.
[00:10:07] Speaker A: That's fair. That. Nah, you're right. You're right.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: It's.
[00:10:10] Speaker A: They are.
[00:10:11] Speaker B: It's.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: You're gonna have to have them. They just like. And like you said. Yeah, that gives us enough space. It makes us look good.
[00:10:17] Speaker B: I.
[00:10:17] Speaker A: All right, I'm with you here.
[00:10:19] Speaker B: Also, if I want to practice krav maga, I got all these guys I can use, you know?
[00:10:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, you're right. We can beat up our own employees.
[00:10:26] Speaker B: We have to. We gotta get good at fighting, dude. I cannot be called American Pharaoh and not have some. Some move. I have to have a move, bruh. And I don't know what that is yet. You're the Clydesdale. You just get to throw hands.
[00:10:38] Speaker A: I get to. It's the stomp.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: It's the stomp.
[00:10:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I do. I do. Like, the second throw on the ground. I do that. I just, like, jump straight down on their chest or their belly, like, one of those. Like, that's what everyone knows is like, oh, damn. He stomped his ass.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: I think it's with this american fair episode, I think I can have a cat. You could, like, just, like, stroke it and be like, I'm mister evil man.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Here's my okay.
[00:11:02] Speaker B: That's my move, by the way. I just fucking throw the cat.
[00:11:04] Speaker A: Cody here.
[00:11:05] Speaker B: No one's expecting that.
[00:11:08] Speaker A: They always think that you're gonna set it down so calmly and then, you know, fight. No, no, no. The cat's part of this go as well. Here's Cody. Here's my problem.
[00:11:18] Speaker B: If you.
[00:11:18] Speaker A: If you get a cat as. As part of your. Your american pharaoh Persona.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: Yeah, here's my. My biggest problem with that is I've seen how you play with Stu, and that is the least terrifying version of you that maybe exists. Cause all you do is like, give me that belly. Groom you. My little guy grooming. Like, he's destroying you, calling you up, biting you, and you're like, hee hee hee. Oh, my gosh, you're so cute.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: Look at my cat. So when I'm eating belly, I'm not intimidating. Is that what you're saying?
[00:11:49] Speaker A: I don't, I don't. It's not. It doesn't come off to me as, like, if I were to have to, like, walk in. If I. If I was, like, middle management guy, right? And I got to come into the office and be like, hey, boss, we got problems in the dock. And you're just like, give me that belly.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: Give me that belly. What's going on? Like, I'd be like, I think that's really relatable, though. I think you want to boss that only. Why are we trying to be relatable?
[00:12:13] Speaker A: We're above them. We're the powerful one. If it. Now, granted, obviously, if you were doing this to. Now, this is where size matters. If this was a tiger, okay? And you were like, give me that belly. Give me that belly. That's a different story.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: What if I could genetically modify some sort of chimera sphinx situation? Yeah, of course.
[00:12:35] Speaker A: That's great.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:36] Speaker A: If you can get a sphinx, get it. Well, wait, no, because sphinx have people's faces, and I don't want that.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: I don't want that. I want the lion's head on it. But I do want it to also, like, have a tail that's like, I want a Chimera tail. That's a scorpion's tail, eagle wings, lion. Let's go. Classic. Yeah.
[00:12:51] Speaker A: And we'll have the money to start investing in that type of. In that type of genetics.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: I'm already working on it. With my media, my small income, I've definitely squired away some for science. So I still gotta go putty person, man, I want these men. I need these men.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: We gotta have these guys. We gotta have them here. All right, so we'll move putty people on where they will go up against either the cleaner or your right hand man. For anyone who didn't listen to group a, obviously just go back and listen to it. But in case you don't have that kind of time, when we're talking about the cleaner, we're talking about this is the person that you call in who takes care of it, whatever it is. This is who handles that business for you?
[00:13:31] Speaker B: I need somebody dead. Somebody tried to steal my chimera, I need them dead.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: Yeah, they're mostly there to kill people.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, for sure.
[00:13:39] Speaker A: Maybe, maybe they'll do. I would imagine if you're the cleaner, you're also like kind of loosely a con man. So there's probably like, if I need him to like steal something, he's going to do it. It's not going to be eloquent, you know, it's going to be smash and grab style and he's just going to blast his way out. But either way, I get my stuff.
[00:13:54] Speaker B: It can't be elegant. Think Mike from breaking bad. He's a cleaner.
[00:13:58] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
[00:14:00] Speaker B: You just give him a mission and it gets done. I don't need to ask questions. Right hand man is, I think, the same as the cleaner, but business, business, cleaner.
I need you to run these TPS reports. I need you to make sure the horse is flowing and keep the horse flowing. The cleaner doesn't have time to find new farms.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: I'm just wondering in the event that like, you know how like jobs sometimes are, like let's switch roles for a day so you can get a chance to see like what they do when the right hand man and the cleaner switch jobs. And you're calling on the cleaner and you're like, hey, I do, I do need to get those memos. I do need to get those memos by the end of the day, if you can get that done. And then you're going to your right. And he's just like, I don't even know. I don't. Cleaner doesn't actually know how to use a computer, cell phone.
[00:14:46] Speaker B: Cell phone, or shirt with basic, basic email. Very good.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: But this guy's not going to be able to pull up a Microsoft office template, you know, and like build out the memo for me that I need.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: I get the memos and they're just covered in blood.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: But then the right hand man, you're like, hey, I need you, I need you to get to Saudi Arabia and I need you to go kill a prince for me to send a message to the, to the higher up. So, like, we're not fucking around on this shit. These are our horses and. Yeah, that's what we're gonna do. And it's like, ah goo.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: What?
What? Oh, God. I refill the printer a lot. I don't know.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm very good at that.
[00:15:25] Speaker B: The problem is though, like, one of us, one of us is costing us money and the other is making us money.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: Dude, you're saying, so the cleaner is costing us money.
[00:15:34] Speaker B: The cleaner is pure profit loss. If we're just looking at straight numbers on a spreadsheet. Sure. Cleaners lost. Cleaners lost loss, lost loss, lost loss. Because he's not cheap and he does. Is it a loss, though, if we're.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: Take, if it's, if we're, if he's taking care of our enemies and keeping.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: Us, keeping our business running. Yes. Long term goals. He's good for growth, for protection. But I'm talking about just quarterly reports when we talk to shareholders. He's a, he's a red mark on the thing.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:16:02] Speaker B: I.
[00:16:03] Speaker A: Hey, Cody, this is why I did bring up don't pay him on the books. I thought it was pretty clear about that.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: I was like, hey, I'm talking about illegal books and our illegal shareholders.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: Once again, I asked you not to bring our illegal books to shareholder meetings.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: It's.
[00:16:20] Speaker A: I just, this felt like I was like, I get why we keep illegal books too. I understand the need to, like, have some accountability. I just don't think we need to show anyone that.
[00:16:31] Speaker B: I understand. But I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to run a profitable business. I love the cleaner. I love this guy. He's funny. He does all the jobs. I get it. But this is rough. I'm just saying it. Look, the cleaners, cool as fuck. It is that cool? Yeah, there is a very, there's a badass. You get to wear a leather jacket.
[00:16:48] Speaker A: So much.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: Awesome. So much leather.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Motorcycle riding.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: Oh, fuck, yeah, dude. Motorcycle. You have a speaker maybe?
[00:16:54] Speaker A: You speak like three languages minimum easily. You're just, you're just rolling up in like, the French Riviera just speaking French. Just macking on ladies.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: Dude, that's gonna be so cool. We have the cleaner and we're negotiating with some guy who's like, russian and we're like, give us all your stuff. And he says some russian shit. I'm like, I don't know what. And then the cleaner starts saying, like, translating us. I'm like, oh, fuck. This guy's cool. Yeah. This guy rules.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: Oh, man. Is that, is that maybe the problem? The cleaners almost too cool.
[00:17:23] Speaker B: I don't need you to be cooler.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: Than me and my own company.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: He is. The cleaner is always the coolest. There's nothing we can do about.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah, there's not. Yeah, there's no way around that.
[00:17:30] Speaker B: That's.
[00:17:30] Speaker A: That you're paying for that.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: Do you think the main villain in John Wick is the coolest person? No. No.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: So. But the right hand man, you're arguing here that this, as we've, as we've also kind of described the right hand man through in group b, this is, this man is very oriented towards the actual business.
[00:17:49] Speaker B: I'm, Nick is aware that crime is.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: Happening, but is mostly there to make sure that everything from the business side. Yeah, looks good.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: Let me hit you with this.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: Okay. If we don't have the right hand man, me and you might actually have to work, like, at this business.
We might actually have to, like, do something.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: Might have to do like what?
[00:18:16] Speaker B: Can you imagine making the schedule for, like, the meat guys? Like, the delivery drivers, they don't, they don't even know it's horse. They're just doing their job. Yeah, that's.
[00:18:27] Speaker A: Oh, man.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: That's kind of, that's the part they.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: Never talk about with criminal empires. Is that, is that first, like few years when you're in the startup phase and you're having, you're just making schedules and it's like, I thought crime would be way more like guns and bullets and bloodshed. This is a lot of administrative work.
[00:18:45] Speaker B: This is, that's the organized part of organized crime that we need to not forget about, dude.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: And that's, and that's. And to your point, then, that's the right hand man, right. This is the guy who is leading us and helping us business wise, while in the background, we're selling the actual product.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: Yeah. But I guess the problem, this is what we have to decide between would we actually want to do work like the boring work, or when it comes down to it, could you kill a man?
[00:19:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:18] Speaker B: It's like. Cause if you don't have a cleaner.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: You gotta go handle yourself.
[00:19:21] Speaker B: You gotta go handle it yourself.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: That's your thing.
[00:19:23] Speaker B: And it's like, ah, I hate excel. You know this. I hate spreadsheets. I do not. As soon as I see them, every fuck I had for the day is.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: Gone out the window. Yup. But at the same time, could I look into another man's eyes as he's pleading, telling me about his kids, his family, you know, and all this, and I just got to be like, nah, fam. Sorry. I don't care. I don't care if you are a prince, dude. This is to send a message.
[00:19:49] Speaker B: I don't want to watch the light leave another living being's eyes if I can help it, you know?
[00:19:55] Speaker A: Could you imagine just like, you're just so. You're like, hey, um, actually, could you turn around, please? I don't want to.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: Please.
[00:20:01] Speaker A: I don't want to see it.
[00:20:02] Speaker B: I don't want to. Look, I think I'm leaning cleaner, man. I think I just need this. I need someone to do the dirty work. I will do the TPS reports for the first few years, right, if need be.
[00:20:14] Speaker A: And there, and we got both of us right there. You know, we can division of labor.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: It a little bit.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: We can figure out how do we make this thing run. But that's, I feel like when we're at the cleaner level of, like, I feel like that's kind of the benchmark that we're where we need to be. Right. That now we have enemies. That's important.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: Yeah, that's important. Otherwise, you're not legit.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: Right, exactly. You're not, you're not intimidating anyone if you don't have enemies.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: So we, if you don't have a rival gang, then you're not even a gang. You're just some dudes.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. So right away, once we get to that level that we're looking to outsource our biggest crimes, I think that that's, that just speaks to, once again, that's, that's a big step up for an organization, and that's where I want to see us at, you know?
[00:20:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: So I think. I think I got to go cleaner as well.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: I think I got to go cleaner as well, dude. I think it's just such a, such a powerful step in the crime ladder, you know, to have one. Okay. So we, again, between the two of us, we can run some spread. We can manage. Yeah, we'll figure it out.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: We'll figure it out.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: Well, that's what, that's what it's all there for.
[00:21:18] Speaker A: All right, so now we have the cleaner going up against the putty people. Now, obviously, in a fight, cleaner is going to win. That's his whole, that's his whole shtick.
[00:21:27] Speaker B: That's the shtick.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: Yeah, that's kind of the, that's kind of the bag. But here's the thing.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: I did, we did talk about this a little bit with exotic assassin versus cleaner.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: Is that.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Is this person, like, they have to be part of the company, right. But are we, like, how do we feel the fact that he's not really day to day. Like, we're not seeing him all the time. He's not in the office much.
[00:21:51] Speaker B: He's, I think we got him doing the dead drop pickups and stuff. Ever. Like he's got weekly jobs that he's got to get done.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: Oh, sure, sure.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: You know, like making sure the money's in the right spots and everyone's paying their dues. And like, if someone doesn't, if the putty people go to shake somebody, like, we had the putty people to steal DVD players. If we need DVD player, combo DVD VCR stolen off truck and a high speed chase. That's the putty people.
[00:22:15] Speaker A: That's putty people.
[00:22:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: Until they move themselves up the organization to become God kings. Much like in the fast and the.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: Furious must, like in the best and the furious. Thank you. I knew you'd get that reference. And then with the cleaner, he's not going to get us DVD player. No, no, no.
But if the putty people decide we're going to flip these DVD players ourself and keep the money, that's where that we need a cleaner.
[00:22:38] Speaker A: Yeah, just say yeah.
[00:22:40] Speaker B: I like, I just, like, I like.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: Having someone that's offloading all of my guilt.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: Like, I feel like I just want.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: Like a life cleaner that I can have go do. Like, like, I. Like I got some beef with my neighbors. Like, we got beef.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: People.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: People called on my, on my house to the city for some like, weird ordinance thing that we weren't following. Yeah. Shit, I. I don't, I don't want to go throw. I mean, do I want to go through rocks in all their windows? Yeah, of course I do. But I can't do that because they'll.
[00:23:14] Speaker B: Know it was you. Easy, obviously. Yeah. The cleaner could do it, though.
[00:23:17] Speaker A: The cleaner. I can send the cleaner in.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: I think this is actually a good job for the party people. You got 40. You got 40 dudes on your yard throwing rocks in your house. What are you gonna do, Nick, right now, a bus, a fucking truck shows up outside that says, like, gourmet meets. And then the doors open up and out of the back comes 40 dudes out of a 16 wheeler and they start throwing rocks through your window. What do you do?
[00:23:40] Speaker A: Sends a message.
[00:23:41] Speaker B: It's a message. Tell you right now the message, dude, that's where I'm at right now, the next cleaner, does the cleaner send messages better than the putty person or does the cleaner responds to messages? I think. I think that's like a haul to back, you know?
[00:23:56] Speaker A: So when anyone comes to us, it's like, oh, you made the first mistake.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:00] Speaker A: By going up against us because now we get to call in.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Yeah. The clean. Do you think if we have putty people, we can just bluff and say we have a clean?
[00:24:12] Speaker A: Like, look we've hired? There's so many people in this organization, as you can see. Exactly why you. Of course we would have a putty. Of course we would have a cleaner. Yeah, I mean, maybe, but that's not one you want to get caught slipping on.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: I know, but in the event that they have a cleaner, Nick, this is a startup, though. We have to. At some, at some level, we have to fake it till we make. Well. Right, right.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: And I get that, but like, I'm.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: It saying, like I said, once we.
[00:24:37] Speaker A: Officially get to the level that we need a cleaner, I just, like that means we've made it as a company and this is gonna be someone who grows with the company. I feel like, you know, unless he dies, then we'll get a new one.
[00:24:49] Speaker B: You know, but I mean, that's gotta.
[00:24:51] Speaker A: Be the hard part, right? Is the, like putty people, that's any, that's literally any single person off the street.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: Don't even need to.
[00:24:58] Speaker A: Don't even for a genius. No offense.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: Listeners, when you send in your resumes, you're probably gonna be a party person. Yeah.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: Saying you all have to start there every. It's where everyone starts, right? So it's fine. Whereas, like, the cleaner, how do we audition that? Or like, how do we interview for that? Because I, hey, I'll be the first one to say on my resume. Are there a few things that are a little exaggerated? Yeah, of course. But what if this guy is saying he was Navy SeALs but actually got kicked out of the Navy after like a, in like basic training, right?
[00:25:28] Speaker B: Yeah, he didn't make it. Yeah.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Like, do we have to have them go do a mission first and then.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: It just feels like we're wanting killing someone and also it doesn't feel like we're going to be lucky enough that we can hire a cleaner as an inside hire. I feel like this is going to be out something we have to outside hire. Yeah, I mean, if we get lucky. If we get lucky. If you, hey, if you're listening right now and your resume is cleaner worthy. Send it, send it, send it.
I think I got a locking cleaner. I think it's where I'm at too, but.
[00:25:56] Speaker A: Oh, I really thought you were going putty person.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: No, we need putty people. But at the end of the day, who's the most important in the organization? Who's the best goon? I think it's the cleaner. The cleaner is your best goon? Yeah, by all.
[00:26:07] Speaker A: Definite by that. Definite of like, who is the best overall goon to have? Like, when you need. Once you know you have a cleaner. Like this organization is. Is exactly where we need it to be at. Yeah, I. Yeah, no, I think, yeah.
[00:26:19] Speaker B: Like, what's the. If we. Even if we do the math, one cleaner will use a go go from kill Bill. Right? She's a cleaner. She's this like, 17 year old cleaner. One of her is equal to 88 putty people and one bodyguard. Yeah. Insane.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: That's pretty good numbers.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: And not even equal to. Better than. Yes, better than that. Right.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: So at some point, yeah. It's like now they're not gonna be able to do all of the work that the other 88 are doing. They'll be like, driving around and the taking, you know, the administrating.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: Is it fucking awesome when 89 people roll up on motorcycles to the same bar and take it over? Yeah, dude. Yeah. Very radical.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: But is it also very cool when the cleaner shows up to the bar and someone's like, hey, you ain't from around these parts, are you, boy? And he's just like, yeah, I thought I. You're Chris, aren't you? Yeah, I thought that's who you. I figured that's how you'd greet me and then just bam.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: Right there.
[00:27:18] Speaker A: Shuts him down in the bar.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Exactly. Done.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: Sick.
[00:27:21] Speaker B: That's why I met cleaner. I'm at the cleaner. Status exist. It's really hard, though, because I would love some putty people. If I had 88 putty people in my life. The things I would.
[00:27:31] Speaker A: I mean, the question I. Once you said the best goon, that really rephrased for me. Who do you need? You need putty people like that. We're not disagreeing with that idea.
We're not going to start a crime organization and immediately hire a cleaner. Like, that's. That would be ridiculous.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: How do people first put it first?
[00:27:50] Speaker A: So it's like, that is the most necessary. But is that the best one? No, our cleaners. The best one. That's our dude. That's our boy.
[00:27:57] Speaker B: That's why they are where they are at. I got a locking cleaner. You're right.
[00:28:01] Speaker A: I'm with.
[00:28:01] Speaker B: I'm trying to find a way to get putty person there because I know it's important.
[00:28:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:06] Speaker B: But it's not in person.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: In the organization, they're the most needed, but they are not the best. And they would admit that. They're like, man, that would later walks by you in their leather jacket, speaking somalian for. You're like, whoa. He's like, yeah, I do a lot of diamond mine stuff.
[00:28:23] Speaker B: And you're like, oh, fucking badass.
[00:28:25] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: Also, if you have to have a beer with one of them, get a story. You want a putty person story? No, no. If I want a putty person story, I'll talk to Nick. Right? Yeah, I'm sitting. I want some cleaner shit.
[00:28:36] Speaker A: I'm with you here. I'm with you. We're gonna, uh. Cleaner.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: Yep. You're in for the boat.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: There we go. Absolutely. Congratulations to the cleaner. Thank you all so much for listening to this episode of friendly competition. If you want about Chaboy is a few things that you can do. As always. Share with a friend, tell a friend. Wherever you're listening to this, make sure to hit that like that.
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[00:29:15] Speaker A: As always, shout out to Charizard for that intro music. You want to hear more of their stuff? And over to band camp, type in Charizard and replace the vowels with sixes. That's going to be it for us, folks. We got a new season coming out on Monday, but until then, I've been Nick Carey.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: And I'm Cody Linden. See you on the boat.
